How many of you did not get your child vaccinated

[ProudVegetarianGirl]

My huband and I decided again the vaccinations for our 2month old because of what was in the shots. We are going to do
natural healing and remedies anyway so far our son hasent gotten sick and i wish i i know what i know now i would have never gotton shots for my first child. I thought it was required he wont be getting any more.Anyway what kind of books do you reccomend me to get about natural healing.

[PikkuMyy]

Since no one has replied, I figure I'd turn you to Mothering.com, the site for Mothering magazine, for natural family living and attachment parenting.

On the forums (click on discuss) there is a vaccination board as well as a natural health and healing board.

People discussing all issues related to vaccines, etc.

[ProudVegetarianGirl]

thanks i will check it out.

[avocado]

we had no vaccinations and I read a few books on the topic at the time (anti-vax) but.. can't remember their names! (it was a few years ago and they were Australian books) - good luck!

[sharon]

Both our kids got all their recommended vaccinations, although we delayed the hep vaccine recommended at birth. The fact that many kids are unvaccinated and healthy says little about the relative risks of getting vacinated versus not getting vacinated.

I know there is some controversy over the relative risks, but as I see it, there is a lot of good evidence for most, if not all, of the recommended vaccines, not just for our kids, but for all the other people our kids are in contact with.

Personally, I find the threat of many of the diseases you can vacinate against a lot more scary than the side effects from the vacination. I feel very lucky that we have the option to vacinate, an option that many of our parents or grandparents did not have.

[shai]

Sharon,
I agree with you 100%. The risks of NOT vaccinating far outweight any risks of vaccinating. The reason why there are not as many childhood deaths and illnesses as there used to be is because the vaccinations nearly got rid of very serious, life threatening illnesses. When you don't vaccinate your child you not only put them at risk, but also the public.

[sdgeiger]

Originally posted by shai
When you don't vaccinate your child you not only put them at risk, but also the public.

How does an unvaccinated child put the public at risk? If the solution is to vaccinate then the people that are vaccinated have nothing to worry about, right?

[feline01]

Originally posted by sdgeiger
How does an unvaccinated child put the public at risk? If the solution is to vaccinate then the people that are vaccinated have nothing to worry about, right?
:p That's so true, if one truly believe that vaccinations work, then my unvaccinated children could not possibly make their children sick. Both myself and my husband researched this topic and based on what we read, we are not convinced that vaccinations are the answer.

[sharon]

Originally posted by feline01
:p That's so true, if one truly believe that vaccinations work, then my unvaccinated children could not possibly make their children sick. Both myself and my husband researched this topic and based on what we read, we are not convinced that vaccinations are the answer.

OK. Not to be argumentative, but how do you explain the worldwide decline in Polio? And the decline in Measles? And the elimination of Smallpox.

Sure, if you decline vaccination, my vaccinated kids are still not at risk. However, the unvaccinated friends of your kids are at risk. On the flip side, your kids are somewhat protected by my kids' shots.

Are you against the vaccines because they are made with animal products? Or tested on animals?

[Erin Pavlina]

Polio was on the decline before the vaccine was introduced. And in European countries where they did not give children the polio vaccine polio declined naturally. Vaccines were not responsible for the decline in polio rates.

Also, are you aware that vaccinations do not provide lifelong immunity? You are just as susceptible to measles, polio, mumps, etc as you would be if you were never vaccinated. Does that mean you are going to rush to your doctor's office and get a booster shot?

Although many vegans choose not to vaccinate their kids due to the non-vegan ingredients, I find that most who have done the research don't believe vaccines actually prevent disease.

For those of you who know all about the pharmaceutical industries and what they are about, check out this great article called:
If the auto industry operated like Big Pharma: fifteen things you might notice

http://www.newstarget.com/009844.html

You'll love it.

[feline01]

Also, the only new cases of polio found in North America occurred in people who had been vaccinated against polio. No new cases in unvaccinated individuals. How would you explain that one? To me, it gives me a huge worry about injecting a live virus into my children.

Vaccines are not tested on animals, they are tested on...children!! There are no requirements for animal testing (just lab testing) before vaccines are released on the market and the companies who produce vaccines are immune against any lawsuits, that's an agreement that the NIH (national institute of health) has with those companies. Of course, I'm against products that are animal-tested and/or contain animal ingredients anyway.

[PikkuMyy]

Another reason people don't vaccinate is because the chemicals used to preserve the vaccines are very toxic.

And another is that many of the vaccines routinely given to babies at VERY young ages aren't necessary (if that) until they are much older. Babies are not at risk for hepatitis. Some Hepatitis can be transferred through sexual activity, not a worry at that age, and another when in a crowded environment with lots of contact with many other children - again not a worry when a baby. Babies' immune systems are not designed for them to have so many vaccines given at once or in such a short time. In most European countries, the vaccine schedule is much different from in the U.S. and allows a child's immune system to recover from one immunization before introducing another.

[xmysticprincessx]

i think i 1st saw these links on the mothering.com vax board. if anyone has even teh tiniest slightest doubt about vaccines, that is the place to go. many of the mamas had or know of chilren who were harmed by vaccine reactions.

this was printed in a recent issue of rolling stone and not by some tree-hugging hippie but robert f kennedy jr.
http://www.truthout.org/issues_05/061605HA.shtml
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8243264/

many of the mamas on the vax board have spent hundreds and hundreds of hours researching vaccine safety, risks of the diseases, and so on. most parents who vax just skim through the 2 sided ditto made by the cdc that the doctor gives them as he's giving the kid his/her shots.

[monica]

I never vaccinated both my boys. and with good reason. the risk's of getting any vaccine and having a possable bad reaction is just not worth it. and to answer the question of all of you uninformed parents out there that are wondering why people arn't getting sick like they did why back then is not because of the vaccines. It's because of a little thing called sanitation! I think that all you parents out there are just way to trusting in your doctors. Did you know they are payed a 100$ for every child that is fully vaccinated? And if you care so much about your children did you ever ask the doctor for a list of all the ingredents in all those vaccines? Because I honestly believe that if every parent knew what they were injecting into there poor children they would think twice about what they were doing. do you know that vaccines can change human dna? or cause autism? or sids? or brain damage? If you look at satistics it clearly shows that you are more likely to have a serious reaction or die from a vaccine that to get the desease it is ment to prevent? Have you ever noticed that vaccinated children get sick more often than unvaccinated children? Would you willingly put formadihyde, antireeze, monkey cells, aborted embryo cells, alluminum or mercury in your children? well those of you that vaccinate do. I think you owe it to your children to not vaccinate! Feed them healthy and they will be healthy. if your not convinced please check out these stites---- www.thinktwice.com www.909shot.com monica

[adrienne]

My husband and I did not have our daughter vaccinated.
Watching our daughter suffer for something we did not 100% believe in.
Vaccinations have a relation with nerve disorders and we are not sure what they are doing to our childrens immune systems.
Does it seem right for someone so young, while they are developing, to have so much injected into their body.
More children die from being over weight, but you do not see doctors trying to save those lives.
I think doctors and companies stand to profit from vaccinations so they sell them like we need them.
I think the most important thing is what you are comfortable with as a parent. You know your child better than anyone else. What may be right for someone else may not be right for you and your child.

[feline01]

Whooping cough vaccines show new promise (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/W/WHOOPING_COUGH?SITE=COSTE&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)

I read the article and what truly horrified me is that the sample size for testing the vaccine was only 2,800 people between the ages of 15-65! How does this help when whooping cough/pertussis vaccines are given to infants! :mad:

[counterGOPI]

'how to raise a healthy child in spite of your doctor'
and
'the vaccine guide'

good books :)

[kjmckenzie]

I also did not vaccinate my 9 month old son. I feel that as I eat a really healthy diet, vegan and as organic as we can, we can combat any diseases we come across that way. I also feel that there are so many other things out there for which there are no vaccines, like SARS etc., we need to keep our immune systems up for those ones anyway, might as well keep heathy to ward away all of them! The fact that the vaccine might make my perfectly healthy baby get a fever and not feel well just doesn't seem right to me. Also, I breast feed, so he gets immunity that way. Now all I have to do is conquer immune suppressing sugar in my diet...

[aeonmoonfairy]

My husband and I too chose not to vaccinate our children. Our son is now almost 2 and our daughter is three months old. The reason being is because of the toxins used as preservatives in vaccines (formaldahyde and thermisol aka mercury) or how they culture them (from animal cells, pig fetuses and even aborted baby fetuses) ethically and healthfully it was not the answer for us. Also the fact is there are hardly any epidemics going on right now. Even my doctor who was pr vaccine (she was very open to our decision) said there would be now harm to our children in the United States from these illnesses.Also there is a lot of question to if the vaccines are even effective. For example there is a pertussis (whooping cough) epidemic in fresno right now. How many of these kids do you think were vaccinated and still got sick.. Because a majortiy of the the public do not question vaccines, many of these children where most likely vaccinated as infants. A very good book is "Vaccines are they really safe and effective?" by Neil Miller.

[firegypsy]

Neither of mine are vaccinated, and the one on the way won't be either. Luckily (we weren't vaxing anyhow) my ds has a medical exemption from an awesome doc because he tested positive for an egg allergy in a blood test. Thank goodness for small things! I can't believe that anyone WOULD inject a child with that crap considering it doesn't work anyhow! (something like 83% of reported cases of chicken pox last year were in VACCINATED children!) Not to mention how toxic they are.