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duckie1978
02-06-2003, 07:34 AM
Did anyone see the South Park episode that was on last night? I got all excited because the kids went to a slaughter house and they had all these baby cows tethered to turn into veal and the kids were like what? that is so cruel. So the kids broke in and took them back to one of their houses and baracaded themselves in with like 20 baby cows. It was really funny because they were considered terrorists and had a negotiator who had the USDA change the name of veal to slaughtered baby cows or something like that. One of them even was like I am not eating meat ever again! Of course the ending sucked and totally defeated the purpose of the episode I thought because the vegetarian kid got all theses sores all over him and the "doctors" that the kid was brought to was like "its vaginitis", because he wasn't eating meat he was growing little vaginas all over him. Come on!! I know it is supposed to be satirical and just makes fun of everyone and everything but I was hoping for a little more social responsibility from them. Oh well, at least the Simpsons were able to keep Lisa as a vegetarian.




reb_granger
02-06-2003, 07:59 AM
I really get irritated when people try to perpetuate the myth that vegetarianism is for women and sissies only. Compassion doesn't emasculate a man!! Quite the opposite, in fact. A man who kills defenseless creatures can hardly be called valiant.

There was a reporter who did a write-up on a vegetarian restaurant somewhere. She commented that the restaurant was patronized mostly by women, of course. Men love their meat. She would herself prefer a 'real' man who ate meat.

What the...? :mad:

duckie1978
02-06-2003, 08:39 AM
I would really like to think that men don't believe that they have to eat meat to be a real man, I mean look at Carl Lewis an Olympic athlete and Joaquin Phoenix the actor. I think any man who choses compassion over convention is way sexier! I have only dated one vegan and man he was the best!

Teejay
02-06-2003, 05:36 PM
I do think, though, that the ending of that South Park episode was meant to be totally ironic -- i.e. still on the side of vegans. It would then be understood to be making fun of the general attitude that "if you don't eat meat you will turn into a you-know-what" or "you will lose your masculinity" -- making fun of that attitude, not agreeing with it. You can only really laugh at it (and clearly a laugh is intended) if you are familiar with this attitude, and the joke of the ending seems to be rubbing in how silly that idea is, by visualising/actualising what it means to turn into a p****y. -- so-called.

Even if you don't see the ending as ironic, it's brilliant that the episode exposed so much about the meat industry's cruelty.

duckie1978
02-06-2003, 06:56 PM
Oh yea totally! I take everything on that show to be very satircal and poking fun at everything. I love South Park and watch it whenever I remember it is on. I think it was great how they kept repeating the slaughtered cow name for veal and the big baby doe eyes! It is that type of images that keeps my dad, a die hard meat eater, believing that veal is a terrible "product" and refuses to eat it or cook it (along with lobsters). The more people are exposed to the fact that their prepackaged meat was a living, sentient being, the more people are going to start making the connection and move to a cruelty-free lifestyle.

CarlaJ
02-07-2003, 04:17 AM
Agreed, liked the episode a lot :D