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Mystican
09-23-2003, 05:38 PM
Just wondering if anyone has information on the artificial sweetener known as aspartame, and its risks, if any.

I'm not really asking this for me, as I gave up sodas (caffeinated and non-caffeinated) long ago, and there's not much else that I eat or drink that I think would contain artificial sweeteners. Thing is, though, I know someone who does drink (diet) sodas, and I told him I thought I'd heard that aspartame could be dangerous. He said it was safe. He's an exercise and physiology major who works as a personal trainer at 24 Hour Fitness, so perhaps he would know about this... but maybe he missed some vital information? And I could have sworn that I've heard bad things about aspartame... I looked online now and found sites with danger warnings, but they were warnings that other sites (that actually seemed to be more scientifically-grounded) portrayed as false myths. (One site in particular, at http://www.aspartame.org/ , seems at first glance to be fairly reputable, and says that "the bottom line [is that] aspartame is safe.")

So what should I tell my friend? (For the record, by the way, he's not vegan.) Which one of us is right when it comes to aspartame? Are there are any sites out there with clear, concise and solid information about this artificial sweetener? With evidence of health risks that's based on actual scientific studies?

-Erik




sophie
09-23-2003, 06:15 PM
my partner has been going on for years about the dangers of this stuff. I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole! Anyway, this website has links to about 100 articles highlighting the dangers of aspartame. Hope it's helpful.
http://www.321recipes.com/aspartame.html

Mystican
10-04-2003, 12:50 AM
Update:

I printed out the first couple pages of that site, and showed them to him. He said (I'm paraphrasing) that for every opinion, there will be hundreds of dissenting opinions, which of course is true, and hundreds of "authorities" one can point to to back up an opinion on either side. He also said aspartame is one of the most tested products in history, gave that bit about how the FDA approves it so it should be safe, etc. ... Oh, well. I hope he at least goes to the site and takes a glance at the statements of some of the doctors listed... but even if he doesn't, I guess I tried. He's entitled to his opinion, as I am to mine. (And I, for one, will continue *not* to use aspartame.)

Still, it's frustrating, no? I realize that when talking to people about health-related issues like this, it's hard to act with *complete* authority, precisely because there are so many dissenting opinions. It would be more frustrating for me had I been trying to talk to someone about ethical veganism, given them all kinds of solid evidence about what animals really go through, and then wound up with not even an "I'll think about it." Then again, I suppose even if I manage to "plant a seed" in the mind of only one person out of every hundred that I talk to...sooner or later, somewhere, a seed will sprout.

-Erik

VOW
10-04-2003, 06:29 PM
I remember when aspartame (NutraSweet) first made an appearance in the American market. I thought it was fantastic.

But over the years, I noticed finally (DUH!) that every time I used it, I got a headache. I'm headache-prone anyway, so it was easy to make excuses. But finally I admitted it to myself and stopped using it.

There's a big, dirty secret that aspartame has neurological side effects to some people. But since the Federal government made such a to-do over withdrawing cyclamate from the public use, and had also threatened to do the same with saccharine, NutraSweet was a (tainted) bone left to throw the public.

EVERYTHING in life has risks. But the hype put out by the Monsanto company about the safety of aspartame (in silent comparison to cyclamates and saccharine) was a big fat load of hot air.

Since I'm diabetic, I NEED to limit my intake of refined sugars. An artificial sweetner makes life nicer. (I already have to limit so many things!) I've tried Splenda, and so far, I don't notice any after-effects. However, I'm only using it in very limited quantities.

One sweetner that I'm VERY interested in is Stevia. Check out www.stevia.net, and open your eyes to more political hassles than you've ever dreamed of!



~VOW

Mystican
10-04-2003, 10:09 PM
Actually, I'm already somewhat familiar with Stevia, and my mom knows someone who is also diabetic and who is now using it. She lives in Sweden (the woman who is diabetic) and apparently one can't even find it there, so my mom bought some and sent it to her.

If you're interested, the site where my mom bought the Stevia that she sent to her friend is http://www.sweetvia.com/

-Erik

sophie
10-05-2003, 01:57 AM
My partner grew stevia last year ( as yet there are no restrictions on it here)... it is truly an amazing plant.

Kelly
10-06-2003, 08:27 AM
Whole Foods sells Stevia in their supplements section.


Kelly

VOW
10-07-2003, 11:48 AM
A NEW artificial sweetener will probably appear soon. It's called "tagatose," although the company marketing it has given it a friendly name, "Naturlose."

http://www.tagatose.com/index.htm

Please be aware this product is made from WHEY.




~VOW